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- In article <43138@mindlink.bc.ca> James_Mullan@mindlink.bc.ca (James Mullan) writes:
-
- >I'm "unable to load TCP", and ask for some help, please.
- >I have installed:
- >TWSK10.ZIP
- >WSOCK18.ZIP
- >WMOS20A2.ZIP
- >WINAPPS.ZIP
- >EUDORA14.EXE
- >WTWSK10A.ZIP
- >to set up TCP/IP access on my 486-33, 20Mb RAM, running WFWG 3.11, over DOS
- >6.2 on a standalone machine.
-
- >Here's my TRUMPWSK.INI File:
- >--------------------------
- >[Trumpet Winsock]
- >ip = bootp
-
- Change your ip to 0.0.0.0 (or 128.1.2.3, or anything except bootp).
-
- BTW, use AT&F2 as the init string for your Supra.
-
- Cheers.
-
- + Michael
-
- ___________________________________________________________________________
- Michael J. Tardiff 206.528.8102 tardiff@halcyon.com
- Seattle, Washington USA "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
- Western Star Consulting helps small business use computers and the Internet
-
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Thu Apr 21 15:13:33 1994
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- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:13:33 GMT
- From: taylornw@ehp01.ehp.ornl.gov (Nicholas W. Taylor)
- Message-Id: <taylornw.21.2DB6981D@ehp01.ehp.ornl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: Problems with Winsock with Novells Workplace for Dos
-
- In article <2p47on$e1e@trevan.trevan.co.uk> trevor@trevan.trevan.co.uk (Trevor J. Harris) writes:
-
- >I have been trying to use the Novell TCP/IP transport for DOS supplied
- >with Deskview/X with winsock. I am using odipkt and winpkt with the 3com
- >509 network card. All this seems to load OK with no error messages and
- >tcpman starts ok. When I try to use any windows application like wintel
- >I get an ARP timeout. Winsock works OK with slip and telnet works with
- >DV/X. I have seen some mention of problems with the 3c509.
-
- >Please can anyone help.
-
- >By the way Novell supply WLIBSOCK.DLL. Is this 1.1 complient and can it
- >be used instead of winsock.
-
- I just installed Trumpet's WinSock myself, and had the exact same problem.
- Solution? I got the shareware ODIPKT30.COM from hsdndev.harvard.edu and
- installed it. It made my connects a _lot_ faster. Then I changed every
- explicit 255.255.255.255 IP number address to its corresponding a.b.c.d name
- address. It seems Trumpet looks up names by alpha-name only in either host
- files or name servers.
-
- Hope it helps! It worked for me.
-
- --
- Nicholas W. Taylor, Programmer-mediocre
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- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:39:23
- From: chico@halcyon.com (Kevin Hintergardt)
- Message-Id: <chico.165.0000A818@halcyon.com>
- Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
- Sender: ses
- Subject: simple FAQ for beginners
-
- Here's a simpler FAQ I put together for people who want to use SLIP and the
- same clients I use under MS windows. Im posting here for other beginners and
- and for the experts to peer review. Comments welcome. Plse help me perfect
- this thing without getting to complex for the beginners.
-
- CUT HERE------------------------------------------------------
- Simpleton's guide to Internet stuff.
-
- This tutorial captures my experiences with Trumpet Winsock and various
- clients under Windows. Im no expert but I'll try to build a bridge
- between novices and experts.
-
-
- WINSOCK:
-
- Winsock is a cooperative specification defined by various companies and government
- agencies involved in networking. It is an API superset of Berkeley Sockets with additional
- routines required to cooperate with the MS Window environment.
-
- There are two catagories of products that a user should understand-- winsock compliant drivers
- and winsock compliant clients. Being compliant means that the product implements it's side of
- the winsock API; thus any winsock client can use any winsock driver. Winsock is specific to
- Microsoft Windows and NT.
-
- Winsock drivers implement the API through network protocols such as TCP/IP, SL/IP or PPP. TCP/IP
- is a long standing protocol for dedicated networks such an Ethernets, DecNets, and WANs like
- direct Internet connections. SL/IP stands for Serial Link/IP; otherwise known as dialup service.
- This protocol can be used over phones via a modem. I use this protocol implemented by the
- Trumpet Winsock product, a shareware version available on Internet. PPP is a more robust protocol
- that works like SL/IP; ie. dialup. SL/IP was created informally early on and is widely supported.
- PPP was created formally, is technically better but is still catching up in popularity.
-
- Winsock clients include newsreaders for NNTP services, mail readers for POP mail services, FTP
- for downloading from ftp sites, Gopher for navigating through Gopher servers to find stuff, and
- Archie which help you find stuff to ftp. Other clients include time syncing clients to set your
- PC clock, WAIS for hypertext searching, and Telnet for getting terminal access to another
- machine. I'll only talk about those clients that I've used.
-
-
- HANDLING INFORMATION:
-
- To conserve bandwidth, a variety of compression techniques are used on raw files. To be able
- to use these files, you'll need to recognize them and have the appropriate decompressor. To
- post big files you should have the compressing part. The well dressed Internaut should have:
-
- File extension utility where to get it.
-
- *.zip pkzip
- *.zoo zoo
- *.tar unix tar
- *.arc pkarc
-
- The above compression formats are all 8 bits per byte and you must use a binary mode to move
- these files across Internet. Services such as news and email are 7-bits per byte and you must
- use uuencode/uudecode to convert between 7 and 8 bits. uu*code is a unix utility that has
- been ported to most machines. You can ftp these compression utilities are on CICA at
- /pub/msdos/Archive.
-
- One popular way to burn bandwidth is exchanging pictures. The newsgroups alt.binaries.*
- are used to exchange various kinds of pictures using uu*code (since news is 7 bits). To
- view these pictures, use the news reader to read the article. The picture will look like
- a mass of scrambled characters. Save this article to a file. If the picture is in parts,
- read each article in order and APPEND to the same file. Run this file through uudecode and
- the picture will come out. You can view this picture with picture viewers. Again, different
- file extensions use different viewers. The well dressed picture fan should have:
-
- *.gif WinGif or others Graphical Interchange Format (compuserve)
- *jpg ecjjpg or winJPG JPEG, very high res with small files. Most popular on I'net.
- *.mpg MPEG--motion picture version of JPEG
- *.tga Targa as in targa boards.
- *.bmp Paint MS Windows uncompressed bitmaps
- *.rle Paint and others MS Windows compressed bitmaps
- *.dib Paint/WinGif/others MS Windows device Independent bitmaps
-
- CICA has these utilities under /pub/pc/win3/*
-
- GETTING PLUGGED IN:
-
- 1) Get an account at a SL/IP service provider. These a ussually commercial sites that will
- sell you access to internet using a variety of dialup protocols such as SL/IP, PPP or UUCP.
-
- MY EXPERIENCE: Use a regular comm program such as Procomm to dial into the SL/IP modems
- and login as 'new' (or whatever). Answer some questions and logout. Some time later,
- the network operator will setup your account. You'll need to call the service provider
- first to find out the number, terms, and exact procedures.
-
- To get the winsock dialer working, you'll need to build a custom login.cmd script. If
- you're familiar with UUCP chat scripts, you shouldn't have any problem with this.
- While you're using the comm program to request an account, keep track of the prompts
- and responses needed to get it the system. Part of the login.cmd will be customized
- for your provides prompts. Some ask for Login: while others ask for UserID:. The script
- will need to know which string to wait for. The bottom part of the example login.cmd that
- comes with Trumpet is fairly obvious and can do whatever you want. After the line where
- you 'parse your IP address', you can do anything, ping for hosts, finger someone everytime,
- or start your first client which is what I do. This is the hardest part. If you get stuck,
- find someone who uses the same provider and steal their login.cmd and bye.cmd files.
- To actually dial, use the Dialler | Login menu item to run the login.cmd script. When
- you're done, use the Dialler | Bye menu item to run the bye.cmd script. If the login
- fails for any reason like BUSY, bad user id/password, etc, ESC key will abort the script.
- Once the msg SLIP ENABLED comes up, you can try again.
-
-
- 2) Configure your first client (News/Mail reader):
-
- Normally you start the Trumpet driver and get connected then start a client to get something
- done. Trumpet also includes a newsreader. Lets start this one first. Start with the
- File |Setup menu.
-
- News Nost Name: The name of the NNTP server. Ask your provider.
- Mail Host Name: The name of the mail server. Ask your provider.
- E-Mail Address: The account name you specified while setting up the account
- @ the Mail Host Name again (ussually).
- Full Name: This is your name as you want to be known on mail and postings. This name
- is used for the human part of email addresses and to credit you with the
- parts you write in news articles.
- Organization: The name for that part of news and email headers.
- Signature Filename: The drive/path/filename of your sig file. This file will be appended
- to every news article and email messsage you send. This is where people put
- USPS addresses, company details, disclaimers, cute quotes, ASCII art, etc.
- POP Host Name: ussually the same as your Mail Nost. Ask your provider.
- POP Username: Your name as known to the POP host. ussually the same as the first
- part of the EMail Address.
- Password: The passwork you gave the provider. It will echo stars back to you. Dont forget
- it cuz you'll need for the login.cmd script too. This password is used for fetching
- mail.
-
- Next go to the File | Network Setup menu.
-
- IP address: 0.0.0.0 Your actually IP address with determined at login time.
- Time Server: 0.0.0.0 I dont think Trumpet actually supports real timer servers.
- Domain Suffix: Leave blank.
-
- Now use File | Save Settings to keep all this work.
-
- Use File | Reconnect to try out the settings. If it doesn't work, find a network friend.
- Otherwise, start reading some newsgroups. If you're new to Newsgroups, its good manners to
- just read for awhile (dont post) to see what the rules of the group are. Most groups will
- have a Fequently Asked Questions (FAQ) file available on request for newbies. Ask for the FAQ
- or wait for it to be posted. Most moderators will occasionally post if not explicitly asked.
- Also, not all newsgroups are moderated so the language may be a bit 'unconstrained'. welcome
- to democratcy gone crazy.
-
- When you start posting, Use Post for originating a new conversation, use Follow to comment on
- someone else's article (publicly) and use Reply to send the private email responses to the
- author.
-
- This client has a mail reader that can be accessed through the Window menu item. Fetch will
- get your mail and everything else work like the news reader screen. Once you're in, Article |
- subcribe will give a list of all the newsgroups available through your provider. The list of
- subscribed groups will appear in the top pane of the main window. Doubleclick one to download
- the titles. Doubleclick a title to download and read an article. Everything else for this
- client is in the docs and is left as an exercise for the student (I always wanted to say that :))
-
- 3) Configure other client (Eudora mail reader):
-
- I like the Eudore mail reader. I use the freeware version but once you out grow that you can
- buy the commercial version that has nice features like msg filtering and sorting.
-
- Under the Special | Configuration menu item:
-
- POP Account: chico@halcyon.com is my name@POP host
- Real Name: you know.
- SMTP: I dont use it cuz Eudora can only read via SMTP which is why I'm using SLIP.
- Return Address: Where you want people to send answers to your email. Doesnt have to be the
- same as POP Account. At work, I have return messsage come to my home.
-
- Check for mail: The duration to periodically recheck mail.
- Ph Server: halcyon.com in my case. Ask your provider.
- Fonts: I like courier cuz it's non proportional.
- Message Width: This is tricker than it looks. This and the font size determines the width
- of the msg window to read and compose msgs. If you set it too narrow, you
- wont be able to see the Queue button to send msgs.
- Under Special | Switches is some more settings. The key one here is Save Password. If you
- dont set this, you'll be prompted for the password everytime you check mail.
- If set, you'll only be asked the first time. Special |Forget Password can be
- used to when you dont want other to get into your mail.
-
- Use File |Check Mail to actually fetch your mail.
-
- 4) now for some FTP.
-
- I use WS_FTP by John Junod. It has a nice windows interface and can be maximized to see long
- unix file names. It starts you with a few popular ftp sites. CICA is the one windows people
- should get to know. It has just about every windows shareware app ever built. Most ftp sites
- allow anonyous login (thats your user id). When logging in anonymously, its good manners to
- use your email address as the password. WS_FTP does this for you. Go through the Connect
- button to get connected. Messages come in the little box at the buttom. Your directories are
- on the left, the remote is on the right, when you find something you want, hit the left arrow
- button in the middle and watch the bits fly. Right button is for uploading. There's usually
- an UPLOAD directory that will give you the write permissions you need. ONce you get Ftp, it's
- time to go shopping for other clients, data, pictures, anything. Get ftp working ASAP. You'll
- love it. Start at CICA at ftp.cica.indiana.edu (anonymous). You can get everytime I talked
- about here at CICA under /pub/pc/win3/winsock. The current time sync is at
- ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pub/winsock/tsync1_7.zip.
-
- 5) PINGing:
-
- Same guy has a nice smile ping program, WS_PING. Type in a host name under LookUp then
- use BlockingPing or AsyncPing to see if the host is there.
-
- 6) setting time.
-
- One little client I like is Time Sync 1.7 by Brad Greer or university Washington. It will
- connect to a unix machine that provides the unix time service on socket 37 and sets your
- local PC clock to match. This isn't the navy's atomic clock but lets get real. This doesn't
- use the NTP time service. That's the name of the atomic clock service over Internet. I dont
- have an NTP client and I really dont need one.
-
- All of these clients except the Trumpet news reader will start the Trumpet driver if its not
- already running. So expect that when you initially start a client.
-
-
- 7) SHOPPING:
-
- Here's the CICA winsock index to save you some time.
- **
- ** Index of Windows Sockets (Winsock) Interface Apps in
- ** in ~ftp/pub/pc/win3/winsock at ftp.cica.indiana.edu
- ** [129.79.26.27]
- **
- ** Last Updated: Tue Apr 12 23:11:41 1994
- **
- **
-
- bsdchat.exe 940321 Berkeley WinSock Daemon Talk Client
- cello.zip 940218 Cello WWW Browser Release 1.0 (16 Feb 1994)
- col_12b1.zip 940311 NCSA Collage for Winsock [203k]
- cooksock.zip 931002 Cookie server for windows sockets interface
- eudora14.exe 931217 PC Eudora 1.4 WinSockAPI 1.1 POP3/SMTP mail client
- ewais154.zip 931123 EINet WAIS client application v1.54 for Winsock
- finger31.zip 930810 Windows Sockets Finger Client
- gcp_24.exe 940407 GCP++ TCP/IP Tools for Winsock v2.4.2 [1.06mb]
- gophbk11.zip 930713 GopherBook, ToolBook based Gopher Client for WinSock
- hgoph24.zip 940117 H gopher 2.4 is a Winsock compliant gopher client
- phwin22.zip 940407 Full and free CCSO ph client using the winsock 1.1 API
- qvtws397.zip 940307 Windows-Sockets compliant version of TCP/IP WinQVT/Net
- qws3270.zip 940325 qws3270 winsock tn3270 emulator 3/25/94 release
- serweb03.zip 931209 World Wide Web Server for Windows 3.1 and NT
- sticky.zip 940311 Sticky POST-IT(TM) Notes for Winsock
- tektel1a.zip 940311 Tektonix (4000) Terminal Emulation for Winsock
- trmptel.zip 940311 Trumpet TELNET (VT100) Terminal for Winsock
- tsync1_4.zip 940119 Winsock app sets your PC's clock to match a remote host
- txtsrv.zip 931002 ext server for Winsock API; speaks finger protocol
- web3ham.zip 940322 Web4Ham - A World Wibe Web Server for Winsock
- wftpd19.zip 940323 Windows FTP daemon 1.8b for Winsock 1.1
- wgopher.zip 940201 Gopher for Windows Version 2.2
- winapps.zip 931201 Winsock apps that were prev bundled with winsock.zip
- winelm.zip 940319 WinElm E-mail reader for Winsock
- winfsp12.zip 930810 FSP download application which uses WINSOCK.DLL
- winftp.zip 940111 WinSock FTP program executables for Windows NT
- wingp.zip 940311 Green Pages for Window Sockets 1.1 Winsock [951k]
- winpanda.zip 940311 Panda:gopher, ftp, e-mail & news clients for Winsock
- winsock.zip 940202 Peter Tattam's Trumpet Winsock ver 1.0
- wintelb3.zip 931202 NCSA Telnet for MS Windows (unsupported beta 3)
- wnvn082s.zip 931202 WinVN the NNTP newsreader for Windows (winsock)
- wlprs40.zip 940318 WLPRSPL v4, a Windows Sockets based print spooler
- wmos20a2.zip 940301 NCSA Mosaic v. 2.0 alpha 2 for MS Windows
- ws_ftp.zip 940325 Windows Sockets FTP Client Application Ver 94.03.25
- ws_ping.zip 931003 Windows Sockets PING Client Release 1 Version 93.10.03
- wsarchie.zip 940322 Mar94 version of WSArchie, Archie Client for WinSock
- wsatest.zip 940311 WSA Test Program for Winsock
- wschesb1.zip 940318 Multiplayer Winsock Chess Beta 1
- wsck-nfs.zip 931029 Allow PC-NFS v5.0 to handle any Winsock compliant app
- wslpd.zip 931002 Winsock Line Printer Daemon LPD for Windows
- wsmtpd16.zip 931027 Windows 3.1 and NT SimpleMailTransProtocol Daemon
- wsock1b2.zip 930728 WinSock: Socket-DLLs for NCSA Telnet for Windows
- wtwsk10a.zip 931002 Trumpet Newsreader NNTP for winsock
-
- -------------------
- Kevin Hintergardt
- kevin@chico.wa.com
- Welcome to the Information Goat Path
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 19:38:54 GMT
- From: pekowski@ausvm1.austin.ibm.com
- Message-Id: <CoMJwu.2zBC@austin.ibm.com>
- Organization: IBM
- Sender: ses
- References: <2p47on$e1e@trevan.trevan.co.uk>
- Reply-To: pekowski@ausvm1.austin.ibm.com
- Subject: Re: Problems with Winsock with Novells Workplace for Dos
-
- In <2p47on$e1e@trevan.trevan.co.uk>, trevor@trevan.trevan.co.uk (Trevor J. Harris) writes:
- >
- >By the way Novell supply WLIBSOCK.DLL. Is this 1.1 complient and can it
- >be used instead of winsock.
-
- WLIBSOCK.DLL is Novell's proprietary interface for TCP/IP sockets. It is not
- winsock.
-
- Ray Pekowski
-
-